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Status Under review
Workspace IBM MAS - Oil & Gas / HSE
Created by Guest
Created on Sep 19, 2025

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De-isolation is not allowed if another PTW is using the same location as an isolation point

If 2 independent permit to works are using the same location as an isolation point in Lock Out Tag Out Operations, the isolation cannot be removed until the work in both permits is completed. System is giving below error while try to de-isolate any of them. The isolation and de-isolation activities of two independent permit to work should also be independent.

The isolation and de-isolation activities of two independent permit to work (which would also be using different locks for the same isolation point) should also be independent.

BMXAO0570W - Before you can select the De-Isolation Complete checkbox, the Work Completed checkbox must be selected on the following access permits or permits to work:
2048.

Idea priority Urgent
Needed By Week
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    Francisco Coelho
    Oct 31, 2025

    hi Bilal, thanks for your idea submission! It took me a while to responde because we were doing some research on the implications around the functionalities involved. Where a customer wants to apply the same isolation for two or more permit records, we recommend the use of a separate Isolation Certificate which is designed to support this use case. If the isolation is managed using this process and the Isolation Certificate is related to both permits then a permit can be closed while the isolation remains in place for the other permit. There is a a setting in Organizations (HSE)/(Oil) which can also be used to allow closure of a permit without verification of isolation removal.

    Would you please try the option(s) above and let me know your outcomes?


    Francisco Coelho

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  • Guest
    Oct 29, 2025

    Any update please on the idea?

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